Nivel: RUBIN
Inregistrat: 3/29/2007
Mesaje: 22799
| Mi se pare ingrozitor sa-ti vinzi un organ de care mai tarziu poate sa depinda viata ta.Singura fiinta de pe lumea aceasta pentru care as face acest lucru este copilul meu. |
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Nivel: Ambasador
Inregistrat: 6/11/2007
Mesaje: 818
| Eu tind sa cred ca ori sunt inconstienti ori sunt foarte disperati.Cand dau anuntul poate nu realizeaza dar in momentul in care se apropie de operatie si li se explica riscurile si implicatiile,cei inconstienti devin mai constienti si renunta...cei disperati nu...e alegerea lor insa ...e trist  iar noi...cine suntem sa ii judecam? |
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Nivel: Avansat
Inregistrat: 1/12/2008
Mesaje: 1309
| Si eu daca as face asa cev ar fi doar pentru sotul sau copilul meu. Doamne fereste |
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Nivel: Ambasador
Inregistrat: 6/11/2007
Mesaje: 818
| nu cred ca exista mama care sa nu faca asta pentru copilul ei...pentru sot e discutabil  |
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Nivel: Avansat
Inregistrat: 3/9/2010
Mesaje: 3457
| Am citit si eu aceste anunturi,poate ca sunt intr-adevar unii dintre ei, oameni saraci care vad in vanzarea de organe o solutie insa nu se gandesc ca banii se duc repede si apoi... ce vor mai vinde .Nu stiu ,sau nu iau in seama faptul ca toata viata lor se va schimba radical in urma donarii: tratament medicamentos permanent,limitare la efort fizic,imunitate scazuta si multe alte complicatii ale starii de sanatate.
In final, ce sa zic,nu cred ca vanzarea de organe e o solutie care sa rezolve problemele financiare ale unei persoane. |
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Nivel: Senior
Inregistrat: 1/11/2009
Mesaje: 5442
| bereea wrote:Mi se pare ingrozitor sa-ti vinzi un organ de care mai tarziu poate sa depinda viata ta.Singura fiinta de pe lumea aceasta pentru care as face acest lucru este copilul meu.
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Nivel: Ambasador
Inregistrat: 7/18/2010
Mesaje: 881
| trebuie sa fii cu adevarat disperat sa-ti vinzi un organ,dar si inconstient,poate nu realizeaza la ce riscuri se expun.sanatatea e mai presus de toate. |
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Nivel: SMARALD
Inregistrat: 3/23/2007
Mesaje: 12042
| unii isi vand organele, altii ciuveele ...
e usor pt. noi sa judecam persoanele in cauza fara sa cunoastem in detaliu situatia generala in care se afla fiecare. |
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Nivel: Avansat
Inregistrat: 8/11/2010
Mesaje: 2334
| Ce faza ar fi sa se vanda un rinichi si ala bolnav!! Sa-l vinzi doar asa sa scapi de el, eh...decat sa-l arunci ca pe un apendice rau, mai bine iei ceva pe el, nu?  
Stiu, stiu, sunt teste care se fac, dar glumeam si eu...fac haz de necaz! |
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Nivel: Membru
Inregistrat: 4/16/2009
Mesaje: 60
| trist....si din pacate multi ajung la asta...offf...Doamne ajuta pe toata lumea |
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Nivel: Avansat
Inregistrat: 8/11/2010
Mesaje: 2334
| Cica exista o piata a organelor ("piata rosie") si a parului uman ("aurul negru")...Recent am ascultat un interviu cu jurnalistul Scott Carney, mi s-a facut pur si simplu piele de gaina...Si cica din parul uman se obtine un amino-acid numit L-Cysteine care este folosit in indurstia alimentare, mai ales in panificatie...
Blood, Bones And Organs: The Gruesome 'Red Market'
Journalist Scott Carney figures he's worth about $250,000, but that number isn't based on his savings or his assets; it's what Carney thinks his body would fetch if it were broken down into individual parts and sold on what he calls the "red market."
In his new book, also called The Red Market, Carney explores the shadowy but lucrative global marketplace for blood, bones and organs. He tells NPR's Melissa Block that despite being underground, there's no question the red market is thriving.
"It's really hard to get accurate figures on what the illegal market is on body parts, but I'm figuring it's definitely in the billions of dollars," Carney says.
'When You're At Your Most Desperate Place ... The Brokers Come In'
As part of his research, Carney visited an Indian refugee camp for survivors of 2004's massive tsunami. Today, the camp is known by the nickname Kidneyvakkam, or Kidneyville, because of how common it is for the women who live there to sell their kidneys.
"The women are just lined up," Carney says. "They have their exposed midriffs and there are all these kidney extraction scars because when the tsunami happened, all these organ brokers came in and realized there were a lot of people in very desperate situations and they could turn a lot of quick cash by just convincing people to sell their kidneys."
The buying and selling of organs is against the law in almost every country, but Carney says the market has managed to grow thanks to the dire situations many of its donors find themselves in.
"When you're at your most desperate place is when the brokers come in," Carney says. "One of these women, her name was Rani, gave up a kidney because her daughter had actually tried to commit suicide because she was in a very difficult marriage ... In order to treat her, the hospital needed a certain amount of cash — I think it was about $1,000 — and [Rani] didn't have any money so she did the only thing she could, which was to sell her kidney because an organ broker just sort of approached her very quickly. And that's a pretty common situation. "
The Black Gold Market
In his book, Carney also delves into the marketplace for human hair, known as "black gold."
"It is amazingly valuable," he says. "The market is about $900 million around the world, and about 40 percent of [that] hair is sold for human extensions."
Many of those transactions take place at the Sri Tirumala Temple in southern India, where people give their hair to the god Vishnu as an act of humility.
"I went there about two years ago and had my head shaved with probably about 1,000 other people," Carney says. "These women came, swept up the hair and threw it into these giant steel vats. [The hair] eventually gets combed and sorted and sold at an auction, and shipped out to the international market."
Hair collected in a single cut from a person's head, known as "remy," is used all over the world for hair extensions. But the shorter hair, often shorn from men, serves a very different purpose.
"Most of the hair that gets shorn is from men," Carney says. "That gets sold to chemical companies and gets reduced to an amino acid called L-cystine, which is used as a leavening agent in baking goods."
The Body As Commodity
In his book, Carney argues that part of what makes red market transactions ethically troubling is the role different social classes play in the whole operation.
"One of the very foundational concepts of the book is when people, say, give an organ ... it's always going to a richer person and, oftentimes, it's going to a person in another country," Carney says. "It's reduced to commerce so quickly."
He says if he had his way, every bag of blood, organ transplant and egg donation would be tagged with the donor's name.
"We have to look at the beginning of the supply chain," Carney says. "We have to be sure we're getting these things ethically and not just assume that we're being ethical."
And while revoking donors' right to anonymity could mean they don't donate at all, Carney says we also need to consider the alternative.
"You will see donations plummet," he says. "But on the other hand, if you were allowing crimes on the magnitude of literally whole villages selling their kidneys, who are we protecting?"
http://www.ideastations.org/npr/136931615-blood-bones-and-organs-gruesome-red-market+black+gold+hair+market&cd=7&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&source=www.google.com |
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Nivel: Avansat
Inregistrat: 6/11/2008
Mesaje: 2571
| eu sunt sigura ca doar un om disperat ar da asa un anunt, Doamne fereste de necazuri. Eu una nu m-as lasa nici cobai ptr a testa diferite medicamente sau vaccinuri pe mine.... |
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Nivel: Guest
Inregistrat: 2/12/2006
Mesaje: 14
| e un lucru groaznic!trebuie sa fi disperat ca sa faci asta ! |
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Nivel: ALBA CA ZAPADA
Inregistrat: 2/12/2006
Mesaje: 17828
| Eu ma gandesc si la alta varianta, poate ca cine da anuntul, nu este neaparat si donatorul , poate ca are "o vacuta buna de muls" si incearca sa vanda rapid ceva din ea...
Am mai auzit de cazuri de persoane rapite, carora li se preleveaza cate un rinichi si apoi sunt injectate cu ceva ca sa nu isi mai aminteasca ce li s-a intamplat si sunt lasate pe strada.... |
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Nivel: Avansat
Inregistrat: 8/11/2010
Mesaje: 2334
| AdrianaC wrote:Eu ma gandesc si la alta varianta, poate ca cine da anuntul, nu este neaparat si donatorul , poate ca are "o vacuta buna de muls" si incearca sa vanda rapid ceva din ea... Am mai auzit de cazuri de persoane rapite, carora li se preleveaza cate un rinichi si apoi sunt injectate cu ceva ca sa nu isi mai aminteasca ce li s-a intamplat si sunt lasate pe strada....
Este un film cu acelasi subiect, din pacate nu-mi amintesc numele...Un film american, in care oamenii strazii erau rapiti si li se scoteau organele sau se faceau experimente pe ei, tocmai pentru ca nu era nimeni sa-i dea disparuti sau sa ceara corpurile. Politia facea ancheta si se descoperise nu stiu ce mare mare doctor implicat.
Posibil sa fie adevarat...nimic nu e imposibil in ziua de azi, cu atata trafic de carne vie si sclavism in secolul nostru...orice e posibil... |
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