Decalotarea - Pro sau contra

Chestionar intrebare: Decalotarea - Pro sau contra
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vanina
Postat: Friday, October 5, 2012 3:39 PM


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doctorulpilula wrote:

Felul in care urineaza, deasemenea poate fi un factor de preventie, urina este sterila si are capacitatea de a spala ea insasi secretiile care se pot infecta pentru ca nu au cum sa se elimine altfel. Nicidecum nu cred ca poate fi vorba de vreun rol de protectie al acelor secretii - nu am gasit nicaieri vreun argument pentru aceasta ipoteza.



"Smegma is probably the most misunderstood, most unjustifiably maligned substance in nature. Smegma is clean, not dirty, and is beneficial and necessary. It moisturizes the glans and keeps it smooth, soft, and supple. Its antibacterial and antiviral properties keep the penis clean and healthy. All mammals produce smegma. Thomas J. Ritter, MD [co-author of Say No to Circumcision] underscored its importance when he commented, 'The animal kingdom would probably cease to exist without smegma.'" ("Where Is My Foreskin? The Case Against Circumcision," by Paul M. Fleiss, MD, Mothering, Winter 1997)

"Infant Smegma: Skin cells from the glans of the penis and the inner foreskin are shed throughout life. This is especially true in childhood; natural skin shedding serves to separate the foreskin from the glans. Since this shedding takes place in a relatively closed space -- with the foreskin covering the glans -- the shed skin cells cannot escape in the usual manner. They escape by working their way to the tip of the foreskin. These escaping discarded skin cells constitute infant smegma." / "Adult Smegma: ... Adult smegma serves as a protective, lubricating function for the glans." ("Care of the Uncircumcised Penis," American Academy of Pediatrics, 1984)

"An infant's glans is very delicate and can be seriously irritated by urine. The foreskin acts as a cover for the glans and produces smegma for a protective coating." (p. 55) / "As to smegma, the normal secretion produced under the foreskin, Gairdner claimed that this substance protects the glans. This is particularly important if wet diapers are left on too long, since decomposition of the urine can cause irritation of the glans if it is not coated with smegma." (p. 64) / "[T]here is not a shred of evidence to support to theory that smegma is carcinogenic." (p. 91) / "All animals produce smegma, and none is circumcised. When mammals reproduce, smegma is deposited. If smegma contained a carcinogen or even an irritant, then the propagation of the species would be jeopardized. No such phenomenon exists." (p. 106) (Circumcision: An American Health Fallacy, by Edward Wallerstein, Springer Publishing Co., 1980)

"Several researchers have tried to prove that smegma causes cancer; all have failed. Not only is smegma not harmful, it is actually beneficial, serving as a protective coating and lubricant for the glans." ("The Circumcision Decision," by Edward Wallerstein, Pennypress, Inc., 1980)

"This process of rationalization has culminated in the supposed relationship between the husband's foreskin and cancer of the genitals--one of the greatest hoaxes in the history of medicine. The theory is that the uncircumcised penis, because it may generate a waxy substance called smegma, can produce cancer of the penis and cancer of the cervix (neck of the womb) ... Further evidence that circumcision is not linked with cancer comes from tests of human smegma. In 1942, the National Cancer Institute conducted careful experiments and found that smegma had no carcinogenic effect whatsoever. This test was duplicated in 1963 on a more extensive scale by Dr. D. G. Reddy and others, with the same conclusions. Negative results have also been obtained in a number of other experiments (Circumcision in Infancy, Charles Weiss, M.D., Clinical Pediatrics, 1964)." ("The Unkindest Cut of All," by John M. Foley, MD, Fact, July 1966)

"Analogous to tears, smegma is the compilation of secretions by ectopic sebaceous glands located in the prepuce, the seminal secretions of the Cowper's gland and the prostate, the mucin content of the secretions of the urethral glands, and the sloughed epithelial cells. It provides the necessary mucosal lubricant and moisturizer and is rich in sexual pheromones. The prepuce normally prevents detection of this phenomenally charged scent until the glans is exposed at the time erection takes place." (Routine Neonatal Circumcision: An Update, by Robert S. Van Howe, MD)

"Is smegma useful? Yes, certainly. It lubricates the cavity between the foreskin of the penis and the glans, thus allows smooth movement between them during intercourse ... Nature has ... provided a natural ointment, smegma, to ensure easy lubrication and protect this delicate region of the male genital organ. / To secure its even distribution, smegma is formed from the whole inner surface of the foreskin cavity ... Smegma production ... is concentrated in the cells of innumerable small prominences, minute microscopic protrusions of various shapes and sizes found on the inner surface of the foreskin cavity ... Sexual intercourse becomes a regular feature of life [in adulthood] and the function of smegma assumes its full value ... Freshly formed smegma ... is a wholesome lubricant--making for ease in erection and smoothness in sexual intercourse." ("How Smegma Serves the Penis," by Joyce Wright, MD, Sexology, 10/70, pp. 50-53)

"If allowed to accumulate for several years, smegma might possibly cause some irritation. But, even this is doubtful." (Modern Sex Techniques, by Robert Street, Lancer Books, NY, 1959, p. 154)


Sursa: http://www.foreskin.org/smegma.htm


Am intrat la intamplare dupa o cautare pe google a cuvantului "smegma". Daca nu se intelege engleza, pot sa traduc.
mikaela
Postat: Friday, October 5, 2012 4:09 PM


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hohot Scuza-ma Vanina, insa in SUA se practica circumcizia in mod regulat si normal. Pareri sunt PRO si CONTRA in orice subiect, personal nu sunt de acord sorry1

t-mihaela
Postat: Friday, October 5, 2012 4:24 PM

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Pe bune, care-i rostul sa postezi ceva 100% in alta limba decat limba forumistilor...alcool

mikaela
Postat: Friday, October 5, 2012 4:31 PM


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t-mihaela wrote:
Pe bune, care-i rostul sa postezi ceva 100% in alta limba decat limba forumistilor...alcool



hohot hohot Eu am o parere buna despre forumisti pupici Cum caut eu sa inteleg termeni in italiana, spaniola, ebraica etc ce alte limbi se mai vehiculeaza pe forum, asa si cei interesati pot cauta in engleza. Nu esti interesat, nu citi, da pagina...Ca sa nu mai zic ca uneori ma chinui sa inteleg ceva in romaneste alcool angel
vanina
Postat: Friday, October 5, 2012 4:40 PM


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Doctorulpilula a facut referire la o afirmatie de a mea dintr-un mesaj precedent (unde am scris ca secretia aia - smegma - nu e mizerie, ci are rol protector) si a spus ca nu a gasit nicaieri vreun argument, asa ca i-am adus argumente.
De asemenea am specificat ca pot sa traduc, dar sunt sigura ca majoritatea forumistilor inteleg. Oricum mesajul era un raspuns pentru doctorulpilula, un user nou despre care nu se stie oricum daca va mai intra pe aici.
t-mihaela
Postat: Friday, October 5, 2012 5:09 PM

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Ma intereseaza tot ce se posteaza ,la unele postari nu replic ca nu-s in sfera mea la altele da .Dar ma intereseaza cam tot ce misca pe aici...sic
zaza_
Postat: Friday, October 5, 2012 6:14 PM


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Decalotarea, ca procedeu fara fortare si care este repetata, este in regula. Zic eu, pentru ca asa am procedat la Matei si acum la 5 ani este foarte curat totul! Dar cand folosesti foarfeci sau alte instrumente...banghead S-a intamplat sa se adune smegma si la el, dar nu am intervenit cu nimic, decat cu baita, atat! Si de obicei dupa ce aparea smegma se desfacea si mai repede si mai usor pielita. Am inteles ca exista si exceptii, ca la unii baieti nu se decaloteaza nici pe la 16,17 ani, ceea ce inseamna o ca este o problema...
bulibuli
Postat: Monday, October 15, 2012 2:47 PM

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shirel
Postat: Monday, October 15, 2012 6:11 PM

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bulibuli,multumesc ,foarte interesanta explicarea.
bulibuli
Postat: Monday, October 15, 2012 8:20 PM

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N-ai pt ce.. si mie mi s-a parut ca explica f clar si bine..
kali
Postat: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 8:20 AM


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bulibuli wrote:
N-ai pt ce.. si mie mi s-a parut ca explica f clar si bine..


Si mie. M-am linistit... am procedat corect...
bulibuli
Postat: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 9:10 AM

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Din punctul meu de vedere, din ce stiu si ce am mai citit - asa e cel mai corect. Sincer aveam o umbra de indoiala in suflet vazand ca multi pediatri recomanda sa incepi procedura pe la 6 luni si la un an sa fie terminataalcool La al meu inca nu se retracta iar inelul ala mi se pare destul de strans. Dar instinctul imi spune sa-l las in pace. Si asa am sa fac, pana la 2 ani. Daca intre 2-3 ani nu reusesc sa rezolv si inelul e la fel o sa apelam probabil la medic. Eu cred ca n-o sa fie cazul...


Dr. pilula a vorbit mult pe langa subiect si nu am reusit sa trag o concluzie clara.. dar mi s-a parut ca sugereaza sa mergi cu sugarul la medic de la bun inceput. Nu pot fi de acord in privinta asta. In schimb e f adevarat ca mamele percep ca agresiune orice manevra pt care nu se face o pregatire/informare corecta in prealabil. Sau poate se refera totusi la copii mai mari, avand in vedere ca spune la un moment dat ca trebuie sa i se explice si copilului (deci e destul de marisor sa priceapa). Oricum ar fi, nimic nu se face brusc - pac, mergi la medic si rezolvi in 3 sec - dupa cum se arata in filmul de mai sus, totul se face progresiv, fara sa fortezi si sa traumatizezi nimic.
kali
Postat: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 9:44 AM


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bulibuli wrote:
Din punctul meu de vedere, din ce stiu si ce am mai citit - asa e cel mai corect. Sincer aveam o umbra de indoiala in suflet vazand ca multi pediatri recomanda sa incepi procedura pe la 6 luni si la un an sa fie terminataalcool La al meu inca nu se retracta iar inelul ala mi se pare destul de strans. Dar instinctul imi spune sa-l las in pace. Si asa am sa fac, pana la 2 ani. Daca intre 2-3 ani nu reusesc sa rezolv si inelul e la fel o sa apelam probabil la medic. Eu cred ca n-o sa fie cazul...


Eu tot cu indoiala la purtator defilez...
Ce sa spun... la Ericut nici acum nu se decaloteaza ca lumea si are 4 ani acusi ( are acea fimoza fiziologica de care se vorbeste in filmulet si care cica se finalizeaza pana la cel tarziu 10 ani - nu are inel fibros ). Medicul a fost cel care mi-a spus sa-l las in pace, mai ales ca jetul de urina era ok si nu a avut de-a lungul timpului niciun fel de afectiune urinara - deci decizia nu a fost luata de capul meu asadar nu sunt atat de ignoranta pe cat sugera dr. pilula.alcool
TatyKS
Postat: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 10:11 AM


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Delicat subiect ... nu imi place sa-i umblu la putica, e ca si cum i-as fi umblat Karinutei inauntru sa o toaletez. Dr. mi-a zis sa-l spal bine la baita si sa-i dau cu unguent baneocin . Nu cred sa aiva probleme, mai ales ca are jet bun nu glumaras .

Bun flimuletul Buli cool !
Cris-DL
Postat: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 10:17 AM


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Eu sunt mai linistita, putin, in privinta decalotarii, insaaaaa pe mine ma omoara cat este de interesat el de ea... Am inteles ca a descoperit-o, insa n-o iarta deloc; daca n-o trage si impinge de zici ca-i prastiealcool.


Ai vostri fac la fel?! Sau cat dureaza chestiunea asta, ca eu am incercat sa-l ignor, sa-i spun s-o lase-n pace, insa fara niciun rezultat... si-l mai apuca si pe afara, in publicsorry1.
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